(1) Immigration. Thankfully, it was the first issue, and most prominent issue, and the one that drew some Springeresque fireworks, though no shirts came off (thankfully). And Romney and Giuliani took each other down and exposed themselves as phonies in the process. Hunter and Tancredo were solid.
As far as the business owner from Maryland that was worried about the “lack of guest workers,” there are perhaps as many as 38 million illegal aliens in the country, and that owner can’t find enough “guest workers?” If that’s really the case, it’s because so many of them are living on your dime.
(2) Guns. Again, Giuliani was shown up for the two-faced phony that he is. While RG is technically correct that NYC’s gun laws aren’t as restrictive as the ones in DC that might soon be struck down, the difference is microscopic. In practical application, there are no differences.
(3) Blacks and Republicans. The third from the last question was submitted from a black man from Los Angeles, about the Republicans’ failure to get the black vote. Huckabee’s response was that he got 48% of the black vote. He only got that by being more liberal on race as an Arkansas governor than Bill Clinton — and even at that, he couldn’t get a majority of the black vote, demonstrating the wisdom in not even trying. Huckabee also let out this crack about not wanting to be part of a party that isn’t diverse — If you really feel that way, Mikey, become a Democrat.
The others fumbled with the question, but the real answer is quite easy — it is in the racial interest of blacks to vote for the party that spends the most, and even the most liberal big-spending Republican will always be outbid and outspent by most Democrats. Ipso facto, that’s where the black vote goes.
(4) Confederate Flag. Toward the end, a white man from Houston, with Texas and Confederate Battle Flags on the wall behind him, asked for the candidates’ opinions on the latter. Romney and Thompson were the only ones that got to answer (I wish we could have heard more answers), and both came out against it, couched in liberal language, and both emphatic that it should not be flown on public places. Any chance there might have been for me to vote for either of them against HRC or any other Democrat has just gone out the window. For my part, I won’t vote for any Republican for President in November 2008 not named Hunter, Paul or Tancredo.
(5) North American Union. Ron Paul got a question from a skeptic, wondering if RP thought that the talk of the NAU was just a conspiracy theory. RP’s answer was pretty good, equated it with the EU, noted the perfidy of the plutocratic extremist hate groups Council on Foreign Relations and Trilateral Commission, and also made the crucial point that the NAU would make the immigration problem a lot worse. He’s more right than even he knows, because an NAU that is anything like the EU will mean that any citizen of an NAU country gets to reside legally in any other NAU country. In practicality, it means that everyone in Mexico and Central America moves to the NAU provinces formerly known as the USA and Canada. The NAU would be immigration amnesty ne plus ultra. Also, RP was situated next to Duncan Hunter, and RP would have done well to note that the man on his left has led efforts in the U.S. House to put a stop to the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP), a NAU progenitor — Committee Chairmen in the U.S. House don’t waste their times with “conspiracy theories.”
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Overall, this debate was a lot better than the Democrats’ YouTube debate, and Republican debates in general are more interesting than the Democrats’. The Republicans have a variety of opinions and records (sometimes to my chagrin), and irritation is the root cause of pearls. The Democrats are nothing but a non-stop echo chamber. Besides, when was the last time you heard a word like “allegory” bandied about in a Democratic debate? Maybe “Al Gore,” but not “allegory.”
However, McCain and Thompson, moreso the former, looked lost and amnesiac.
In the reality of the upcoming electoral politics of the matter, nobody really helped themselves that much, compared to the support they would have received without this debate, but I do think that Giuliani is coming out of this thing with serious wounds.
And one more thing. If you watched this debate, you probably watched it on regular CNN. But because I had a few other things to do, I had a browser tab open and watched it on CNN’s website streaming video. That presentation had some twit in a goldenrod necktie anchoring pre-debate coverage, and debate instant replays during commercial breaks on regular CNN. That goofball needed to get the hook.
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UPDATE 11/29: Now we’re finding out that some of the YouTube questions were submitted by those committed to one of the several Democrats running for President, and the retired General who asked about “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” is a big muck that deals with GLBT concerns within the HRC campaign. While CNN wouldn’t “ambush” Democrats with Republican questions, I’m not really bothered by it, and I wish right-wingers would quit whining about it. After all, if you can’t face down a John Edwards operative in 2007, how can you stare down Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in 2009?