The Gap Gap

21 01 2013

Seattle

Lots of laughs, but we get an admission of something we already knew:

In arrests, minority youth were nearly 85 percent more likely to be arrested than white youth statewide, the study found. But researchers said that number is likely much higher because counties count Latinos as white in their record keeping. Latino is an ethnicity, not a race.

Sarah Veele, one of the researchers from the Washington State Center for Court Research, said there isn’t a federal or state requirement for local agencies to track ethnicity in their juvenile-arrest data, so Latinos are put in the “white” category.

Which also means that white youth crime is far less bad than it seems, if Hispanics are counted as white.  Therefore, the black-white gap is even higher than reported.

Be warned, though:  This only applies to “bad” factors.  Hispanic crime victims are counted as Hispanic.  It’s only when it comes to crime perpetrators and welfare recipients are Hispanics counted as white, in order to make whites “seem” worse.

More:

Once minority and white youth get to sentencing, the disparities begin to even out, Veele said, because judges usually follow sentencing guidelines.

“What we’re seeing is that the disparities are occurring earlier, such as arrests, referrals to juvenile court, and as you get deeper the outcomes are relatively comparable,” Veele said.

“The disparities occur earlier” because blacks commit more crime than Hispanics who in turn commit more crime than whites.  That’s why, genius.

But the admission that sentencing is relatively equal shouldn’t be glossed over.  The reason I want you to pay attention to that is that we’ll often get loaded research about how blacks and Hispanics often get “longer” sentences for supposedly the “same” crimes, when we know they’re not the same crimes and they’re not the same circumstances.

“The problem really starts early,” Gonzalez said. We need to look at “the link between juvenile justice, kids incarcerated and the achievement gap in schools. Most of the kids who end up in the juvenile system have some sort of contact with school discipline beforehand.”

Hooray.  The achievement gap in schools made an appearance.

In Pierce County, African-American youth are 2½ times more likely to be arrested.

More than whom?  It says it above:  More than “whites,” a category in which Hispanics are lumped in.  Yet another gap.

But to Gonzalez, the data backs up what he hears from kids.

“They don’t feel they’re trusted or respected by law enforcement,” Gonzalez said. “An officer is more likely to arrest a student of color rather than ask questions and talk things out.”

Yeah, because, you know, cops are hired to be chatty conversationalists, not to enforce the law.  That’s the problem with cops:  Unlike those students’ public school teachers, they really don’t care about the kids’ feelings or self-esteem at all.

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4 responses

21 01 2013
Puggg

And what’s really “white” anymore? They count so many marginally white central Asians and Middle Easterners (even not counting the troublesome JQ) as white that white doesn’t really mean white anymore.

21 01 2013
John

Most Latinos are in fact Mestizos, to varying degrees, but they are part Native American, and part White. Now, to me, Native American (NA)is its own race. They were Asians when they crossed the land bridge some 12K years ago. I don’t know the exact admixture of how much NA and how much white these Mestizos are, but it’s a clear misnomer to call them White. It seems like the recent immigrants, at least the day laborer illegals that you see at your local Home Depot every morning seem to be far more NA than White.

Our dishonest media will stop at nothing to make it seem that Whites are worse, more criminal than they really are.

21 01 2013
John

So Latinos aren’t just an ethnicity, since most of them are in some measure not just some White ethnic group or another, but in some measure Native American.

21 01 2013
countenance

Many “Latinos” on the East Coast are in fact Spanish-speaking Caribbean black people.




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