On the Other Hand, They Didn’t Forget Anything, Either.

10 11 2016

Washington, D.C.

Want to know why the blue party is suffering?

Get a load of this:

Donna Brazile, the interim leader of the Democratic National Committee, was giving what one attendee described as “a rip-roaring speech” to about 150 employees, about the need to have hope for wins going forward, when a staffer identified only as Zach stood up with a question.

“Why should we trust you as chair to lead us through this?” he asked, according to two people in the room. “You backed a flawed candidate, and your friend [former DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz] plotted through this to support your own gain and yourself.”

Some DNC staffers started to boo and some told him to sit down. Brazile began to answer, but Zach had more to say.

“You are part of the problem,” he continued, blaming Brazile for clearing the path for Trump’s victory by siding with Clinton early on. “You and your friends will die of old age and I’m going to die from climate change. You and your friends let this happen, which is going to cut 40 years off my life expectancy.”

Your official national party committee is full of people who think they’re going to die from climate change some time in the course of their reasonable life expectancy.

If “Zach” is supposed to be the alternative to Donna Brazile and DWStweets, then that whole gang might as well throw in the towel.

Guess who else is being touted as the “alternative:”

In the wreckage of Hillary Clinton’s unexpected loss, liberal lawmakers and advocacy groups have started plotting a major overhaul of the Democratic National Committee, with the aim of using the staid organization to reconnect the party with working-class voters it lost to President-elect Donald Trump.

Much of the talk since Tuesday’s election has focused on selecting a new chairman, with the most frequently mentioned successor being Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), a leader of the Congressional Progressive Caucus who backed the primary bid of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

Your great plan to get back WCWs is a black Muslim.  Let me know how that works out for you.

There’s also this:

“The Democratic establishment had their chance with this election,” said Stephanie Taylor, co-founder of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee. “It’s time for new leadership of the Democratic Party — younger, more diverse and more ideological — that is hungry to do things differently, like leading a movement instead of dragging people to the polls.”

Not enough strident forthright pure ideological liberalism in the Democrat Party, so it needs more.

Is that even physically possible?

The problem with most of this WaPo article is that many of the quoted people try to peddle the notion that there’s some necessary trade-off or dichotomy between crony corporatism and plutocratic shilling on one side and ideologically charged liberalism on the other side.  In reality, they’re the same thing and they serve the same ends.  Or the better way to put it is that the latter is a diversion and a foil for the former.  Stroking and fueling identity group politics of various parts of the coalition of the fringes turned out really badly for you this year, so in the name of progressivism and economic empowerment and working class whites, you want to double down on it.

Forgot nothing, because learned nothing.




17 responses

10 11 2016

the democrats have thrown in the towel on the white working class, they are simply in too deep with diversity, and don’t want to go after their donors.

10 11 2016

Little known fact: none other than Jesse Jackson performed very well with the WWC in the 1988 primary, particularly in Appalachia. Al Gore performed best in that region, but Jackson did slightly better than Dukakis!

Question: why was Obama so widely hated (even in the primaries) in Appalachia while Jackson had some appeal? Want to know your own theory first, though I have my own.

11 11 2016
Alex the Goon

I can’t speak for Appalachia, but I voted for Jesse in 88 to weaken Ducockass’s nomination.

10 11 2016

FWIW, I’m for Dean. He was an excellent Chair in the 2000s and built a hell of an organization that sought to compete everywhere, and then was promptly trashed by Obama/Clinton hacks.

Dean said back in 2004 that he wanted to “reach out to guys with Confederate flags on their trucks” and got trashed for it at the time.

10 11 2016

*Wage insurance
*Universal Partial Income
*Federal block-grants to the states for subsidized childcare
*Aggressive Antitrust actions against chain stores that destroy small town main streets

Oh and stop sneering at Chrisoans, sure you can privately think it’s medieval horseshit but sneering and snickering at it accomplishes jack-all.

Just a few ideas that would appeal to the WWC the Dems could adopt. Offer the WWC the bread of economic opportunity and they’ll forget about the circus of white identity politics.

10 11 2016


*REAL education reform that focuses on prokotion/funding of vocational and technical skills rather than assuming everyone is going to college*

*Class-based instead of race-based affirmative action (this will benefit a large number of whites in raw numbers, but as a proportion of their race, blacks will still end up helped the most)

*An Appalachia-only version of the old WPA

*Aggressive federal law enforcement against the opiate epidemic in rural white America, including aggressive persecution of “pill mills”

This is just off the top of my head.

But hey, all that sounds like hard work and you may actually have to (gasp) go to places like Hazard, Kentucky! Staying in New York with giant paper mache puppets, blocking freeway traffic, and a giant Uncle Sam on stilts is way more fun!

*I had someone obstensibly on my side on another blog say that, economically, this made perfect sense, but opposed it on the grounds that too many white boys would end up in auto repair while black girls would be “steered” towards things like cosmetology. I shit you not.

11 11 2016

“Question: why was Obama so widely hated (even in the primaries) in Appalachia while Jackson had some appeal? Want to know your own theory first, though I have my own.” – Jackson plays better than Obama, he wasn’t representing the party of free trade at the time, etc. A lot has changed since then.

“Oh and stop sneering at Chrisoans” – given that the social atomization and dysfunctionality of the people on the rungs of the socio-economic ladder just below them is one of the things that working class whites aren’t too keen on happening to them, sneering at one of the few remaining institutions fighting it is definitely foolish.

“Offer the WWC the bread of economic opportunity and they’ll forget about the circus of white identity politics.” – You’ll also have to clamp down on the ID politics from others at this point, and indeed a multi-racial America will be all but ungovernable without this. Game theory says the Democrats don’t do this however, and might not be able to do so either. It takes a dictator like Assad to keep a lid on that sort of thing.

11 11 2016

Decent answer RE: Jackson though a little different from my own.

Go read his 1988 convention speech (the blogmeister should as well) for a clue on my line of thinking.

Focus on the speech, not the person so delivered it. I’m perfectly aware of Jackson’s foibles, but look at the text and imagine a white guy giving it, perhaps altering a few things here and there.

11 11 2016
Hard Right

Who’s gonna pay for all this shit, Bernie?

11 11 2016

Wall Street plutocrats.

I’m not talking about income taxes–those hit, at bet, the upper middle class and lower rich these days. No, the really money is in (1) stock exchange transaction taxes and (2) wealth taxes. I’d add a big ass inheritance tax on billionaires for good measure.

Not only would these measures fund programs to help real people instead of bankster parasites, they’d also markedly slow down and hopefully reverse the “financialization” of our economy which has led to such pleasant experiences as the credit and housing bubbles.

11 11 2016

Such programs combined with transaction, wealth, and inheritance taxes would be effectively redistributing wealth away from Manhattan and Silicon Valley and out to the Midwest and South.

Which would be a good thing, as the former have an unbalanced amount of the national wealth right now.

11 11 2016
Hard Right

Yeah, I’m pretty sure that those billionaires won’t take their money and move to Russia or China.

11 11 2016
Hard Right

On a serious note, it won’t cost you anything to stop bashing the Fundies.

You’re actually right about education, but the only way to fix it is to get the Gooberment out of the student loan business.

Let’s see what the Emperor does about Pelosicare before you start making grandiose schemes.

11 11 2016
Hard Right

It seems that we have more than one Stupid Party.

11 11 2016

Why wouldn’t they double down on diversity and anti white rubbish, their own media is leading the way, so they better come along. These “reporters” don’t know how to do much else. Since election night I’ve probably flipped over to NPR about 10 times, within 1 min I’ve heard either a positive use of “diversity” or negative use of “white” every single time. It’s all they know.

12 11 2016
12 11 2016
Hard Right

They sure are “scrambling” a lot.

I guess that gives the Negroes the advantage.

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