Fry With That

28 12 2016



Guns getting into the hands of teens a possibility following Missouri’s concealed carry law

Guns getting into the hands of teens. It is a concern in Missouri tonight as the state’s new conceal carry law is set to take effect January first. This only applies to state law. Legal experts say some of the protections that were once there that prevented teenagers to carry fire arms or carry conceal are no longer there the way the state statute now reads.

“An individual under the age of 18 can conceal carry a firearm under state law as long as they are not a convicted felon. How does that affect kids 13, 14, 15, 17 years old? The argument is under state law, there is no provision that says they can not carry a firearm conceal,” says attorney Matt Fry.

How did our lawmakers let this happen?

“For you to redraft the legislation, you have to understand the history of the legislation and I don’t think they did. When you go in and you rewrite the law and you just put one sentence line in there that says you can conceal carry and you don’t go in and make a distinction of age groups, then it opens it up to kids,” says Fry.

Fry teaches criminal defense at SLU Law, and practices the same speciality out of the Clayton offices of the Kansas City-based Cornerstone firm.

Which means he’s been to and graduated from law school.

I haven’t, on either count.

So, he should understand better than your ever-lovin’ blogmeister that even the post-SB656 liberalization of the state’s UUW provisions, and the way the state’s UUW provisions are written themselves, means that no possible legal or decriminalized form of CCW in this state applies to civilians under the age of 19 or military members under the age of 18.

So why does it take me to tell you?

Again, this applies only to state law. With the law changing next month, Fry says it’s still important to get a conceal carry license because it offers more protection. We found out many people are doing just that.

“At first we saw a little dip in classes, two three seats open, no big deal. ln November and December, they were full every weekend. It was like whoa what’s going on here,” says Southern Armory owner, Aaron Tarlow.

Tarlow says to him, this means one thing.

“It is legal to carry a gun so maybe they are not going to get the permit the physical card, but they are saying I need to know what I am doing and that is awesome. It is showing responsibility on their half, but there is going to be a portion of our society that say they don’t need the training and that is frightening,” says Tarlow.

It’s easy to claim that Tarlow’s motivation for his advice isn’t purely altruistic, and that claim would probably be correct. In spite of that, I’m riding with his reasoning, almost purely because state-to-state reciprocity is predicated purely on the physical permit.

To reiterate, I don’t consider SB656 to be true constitutional carry, and I cringe at the NRA-ILA now characterizing Missouri as a concarry state, because I think true concarry needs to be overt and explicit in the black-and-white of printed state laws, and not just the de facto function of what SB656 does, enacting concarry by implication as a function of the only possible criminal sanction for carrying without a permit in places where carrying is neither publicly absolutely prohibited nor privately discretionarily prohibited being removed from the state’s list of UUW violations.

“Are you serious you’ve never been to law school?”

Yes, and I’m not lying.

What Fry just did wasn’t provide solid legal reasoning, but instead manufacture a fresh shiny new excuse for whoever succeeds Francis Slay/whoever succeeds Sam Dotson/Kim Gardner, to trot out every time the media heat over violent crime gets too much.




2 responses

28 12 2016

It is good to see that guns have not gotten into hands of “teens” prior to this evil new law going into effect.

28 12 2016

It is good to see that guns have not gotten into the hands of “teens” prior to this evil new law going into effect. (I left out an article in my first comment. We do not want any ebonics on this blog).

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