Venus If You Will

14 09 2020

Cardiff, Wales

Me, November 14, 2017:

I have probably written in this space several times in the recent past that: (1) By my 60th birthday, March 31, 2037, there will be legitimate scientific proof of at least some simple form of life on an extrasolar planet (a planet orbiting a star other than the sun), and (2) The crucially important minds in crucially important societies have pretty much forecasted the same thing and see the same thing coming, and therefore (3) TPTB are greasing our skids so that when the official announcement of what will be the biggest most profound news in the history of human civilization and science is made, it won’t come as such a shock. Such skid-greasing includes a recent handful of curious dog whistle pronouncements from Popes Benedict XVI and Francis, as if to reconcile Christianity’s flagship institution and the idea of non-Earthly life as predication for the inevitable news.

Turns out we didn’t need to wait until 2037 or look as far as other stars.

Now, as you can read, there are a lot of what-ifs, buts, gotta-rule-things-outs, maybes and don’t-get-your-hopes-ups, but…I think I’ll pop the champagne cork now.

I always thought that when this day came, it would be the biggest news in the world for days, weeks, months, or more, even if people were duly prepared.  Then again, like I wrote on the day of my return to blogging after having recovered enough, that TPTB have done a good enough job cushioning the blow.  Aside from the reasons I listed then, the increasing science into Earth-based extremophiles.  The conclusion, stated explicitly, is if that if organisms can live in un-Earth-like environments on Earth, then there very well could be extremophiles in several places just in our own Solar System.

Which means that the way it stands now, it’s only going to shake the world when the news is life that is comparable to plant or animal life on Earth, and for that, it will have to be an exoplanet or exomoon.

I’ve also stated that the first permanent space colonies will not be the Moon or Mars, but Venus, at the altitude where pressures and temperatures are most Earth-like.  I think today’s news made my speculation all the more likely.

Otherwise, you knew a song was coming when you read the title.

 


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10 responses

16 09 2020
Sebastian Hawks

They always flood us with these premature “conclusions” about extraterrestrial life because it sells. The “Rare Earth” theory doesn’t sell to a public who has watched too many Star Trek and Star Wars movies. I am highly doubtful that the clouds of Venus would be a fertile place for life. The planet may well have had oceans and life 2 billion years ago. Bacteria probably circulated on rocks knocked off planets around the entire inner solar system and we may find the exact same life existed on Earth, Venus, and Mars. Could a rock full of Yellowstone type thermal bacteria even have made it out to Europa and the gold in the “cracks” of ice there be the same stuff living in the springs at Yellowstone? Possible, would life originate in such an extremophile environment on the other hand? Doubtful, most likely life originated in more conductive conditions and evolved to fill all the possible niches, but is a dark volcano 200 miles under Europa the site of initial genesis? Unlikely. Same is the difficulty of living in the transient, acidic clouds of Venus, where a draft would rapidly move the organism up or down into the death zone, and small cloud droplets are not like living in a pool of water. If life liked the clouds, Earth’s clouds would be green.

16 09 2020
Sebastian Hawks

I’ll ad all the few non “reality TV” shows done on the formerly education oriented channels on cable seem to focus on how Europa must be full of life. I’ll posit it’s equally possible Europa is just Io covered in a sheet of ice with sulfur coloring the cracks and the “ocean” they imagine full of life is actually a witches brew of sulfuric acid. (remember the Venus with swamps and dinosaurs myth from the 50s?)

16 09 2020
countenance

There’s also the warm convecting ice theory. The legit science points to it being liquid water.

I have no problem thinking that there’s liquid water under there. If there is any life, it’s probably going to be nothing more than simple single-cell.

16 09 2020
countenance

And right on cue, “We really ought to do Venus first.” Though this proposal isn’t brand spanking new.

https://spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/space-flight/nasa-study-proposes-airships-cloud-cities-for-venus-exploration

16 09 2020
Alex the Goon

Cloud cities, I like it. Billie Enn Williams can build some, take a few million enns with him, and be kang of them all.

17 09 2020
countenance

Another one of my technological prognostications. This talk about desktop quantum in five years may be optimistic, but I’ve been saying all along that quantum computing is a solution that will search for and find and solve an unfathomable number of problems.

https://techcrunch.com/2020/09/14/quantum-startup-ceo-suggests-we-are-only-five-years-away-from-a-quantum-desktop-computer/

17 09 2020
Alex the Goon

How many lives will lose all meaning, when quantum computing finds the last digit of pi?

18 09 2020
MW

There is no other life out there or even if there is, it will never be proven or confirmed. Independent of any religious aspect, there is nothing else out there and the belief that there is, is akin to it’s own religious conviction. I say that because of the complete lack of verifiable evidence that is available or ever will be available parallels religious beliefs.
Of course, who could forget the Martian rocks found at the South pole that were evidence of life on the red planet?

Why do people have such a hard time believing we are alone?

18 09 2020
Alex the Goon

Why do people have such a hard time believing we are alone?
To believe that, would necessitate belief in a Creator, to Whom they must answer at some point.

25 10 2020

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